is there anyway I could play this on my iPhone? Cause if I can that would be great cause I don’t wanna wait till I’m back from the army to play this new update lol
Hey, posting here from Steam. Not very happy with the Duke's demands being forced. If you want the good options, it kinda ruins the whole good route. It has always been a choice before if you want Sarah to go down a corruption option, so it seems kinda sudden for it to be a forced choice.
You can say no, but ultimately, even if you get the other two on your side, which neither of them would want to say no to the first decision of a united army, you still somehow don't get the majority. This means you have to go with the duke's demands no matter what if you want the united army.
So you can't really refuse him while still doing the seemingly right options, meaning it's forced. I'm gonna assume it's a bug or something unintended.
Hey! Thanks for bringing this to my attention; that is definitely not working as intended! The player should absolutely be able to refuse him while still get his vote. I'll look into fixing this!
Hey, thanks for the reply! I hope my comments didn't come off as rude, since I really like your writing and the way you give so many options and paths.
I posted this on Steam, but I'll post it here as well:
The Union Council votes system seems weird. For one thing, Sarah doesn't seem to get a vote. If you get everyone's support for your position, there's only 3 votes for that position. Now, this could mean one of the members went back on their word, but if you instead get no one's support, there are 0 votes towards your position. Even with no support, Sarah should still cast her vote for what she wants, so there should be 1 vote.
Also, having two votes (a tie) towards your position is considered a loss, regardless of which position you support. For example, two votes towards unifying the armies means they remain separate, while two votes towards keeping them separate means they are unified. It doesn't really make sense that, in a tie, the one that loses is always the one that you happen to support. It would make more sense for the tie to go to whatever is the current status quo (in this case, keeping the armies separate).
These two things together means you have to get everyone's support for your position to win, which means you are forced to have sex with the Duke. If you refuse him you have no chance of succeeding, even if the other two agree with you.
Probably misunderstood where you were there. I went for the ruling council. The preliminary votes - on armed forces, nobility and the plebs - needed the three votes of the three 'visitors'. I didn't see Sarah as Head of the United Kingdom (yes, I said that deliberately) as a viable option
That wouldn't explain why whatever you support gets 0 votes when you get no one's support. It should still be getting Sarah's vote, so there should be 1 vote for it. Also, I did a lot of testing and can confirm that Maeiv does vote.
If you choose to keep the armies separate (something none of the others initially support) and get no support, it gets 0 votes. Get only her support, it gets 1. Get her support and one other, it gets 2. Get everyone's support, it gets 3. This is true for the others as well, so everyone definitely votes the way they say they will.
I have to assume it's a simple coding error/oversight. My guess is when you talk to each person and get them on your side (or they're already on your side), a counter is increased by one. When you get to the vote, the game just checks that counter and uses that number as the vote count, when it should be adding one to that number to account for Sarah's vote.
I chose unified army and support commoners, which both failed 2/4 despite having convinced 2 rulers but that's understandable, one of them could be lying to me (I'm looking at you Maiev). But for the last vote, I chose for Rose to be High Queen and convinced both Edmond and Maeiv to support me and did not bribe the last one, but at the last council, the game send me to the council of rulers route, without any mention of my previous choices.
After some testing, I've concluded that the game doesn't count Sarah's vote. If you get no one on your side, your choice gets 0 votes, when it should be getting 1 from Sarah herself. Get one person on your side, it gets 1 vote, 2 people means 2 votes, and 3 people means 3 votes.
Im not sure if i read it wrong but i had at least three people agree to vote the way i wanted and only received two each time. Is it not a majority win?
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is there anyway I could play this on my iPhone? Cause if I can that would be great cause I don’t wanna wait till I’m back from the army to play this new update lol
She Supports me but...
Apparently not
And why does Sarah advocate for a council if I picked that I myself wants to be the leader?
(Also convinced the other two.)
Hey, posting here from Steam. Not very happy with the Duke's demands being forced. If you want the good options, it kinda ruins the whole good route. It has always been a choice before if you want Sarah to go down a corruption option, so it seems kinda sudden for it to be a forced choice.
Wait it is? We both talk about the Union route, right? (Because if yes, pretty sure it's forced if you want to convince him.)
I Could be wrong.
I checked, and you can refuse him.
You can say no, but ultimately, even if you get the other two on your side, which neither of them would want to say no to the first decision of a united army, you still somehow don't get the majority. This means you have to go with the duke's demands no matter what if you want the united army.
So you can't really refuse him while still doing the seemingly right options, meaning it's forced. I'm gonna assume it's a bug or something unintended.
Oh, yeah that. I also find it wired
Especially if you side the other way they are for it. (Also the opposite of what you chose.)
Hey! Thanks for bringing this to my attention; that is definitely not working as intended! The player should absolutely be able to refuse him while still get his vote. I'll look into fixing this!
Thanks so much.
Hey, thanks for the reply! I hope my comments didn't come off as rude, since I really like your writing and the way you give so many options and paths.
I posted this on Steam, but I'll post it here as well:
The Union Council votes system seems weird. For one thing, Sarah doesn't seem to get a vote. If you get everyone's support for your position, there's only 3 votes for that position. Now, this could mean one of the members went back on their word, but if you instead get no one's support, there are 0 votes towards your position. Even with no support, Sarah should still cast her vote for what she wants, so there should be 1 vote.
Also, having two votes (a tie) towards your position is considered a loss, regardless of which position you support. For example, two votes towards unifying the armies means they remain separate, while two votes towards keeping them separate means they are unified. It doesn't really make sense that, in a tie, the one that loses is always the one that you happen to support. It would make more sense for the tie to go to whatever is the current status quo (in this case, keeping the armies separate).
These two things together means you have to get everyone's support for your position to win, which means you are forced to have sex with the Duke. If you refuse him you have no chance of succeeding, even if the other two agree with you.
My reading was that it was Maeiv who doesn't vote. The other three are voting on her proposals.
But why would we need to convince here then? And I am pretty sure I had more on my side but they still did not want me has the leader.
Especially wired as she said she support me but then she did not. (was when I was not married.)
Probably misunderstood where you were there. I went for the ruling council. The preliminary votes - on armed forces, nobility and the plebs - needed the three votes of the three 'visitors'. I didn't see Sarah as Head of the United Kingdom (yes, I said that deliberately) as a viable option
That wouldn't explain why whatever you support gets 0 votes when you get no one's support. It should still be getting Sarah's vote, so there should be 1 vote for it. Also, I did a lot of testing and can confirm that Maeiv does vote.
If you choose to keep the armies separate (something none of the others initially support) and get no support, it gets 0 votes. Get only her support, it gets 1. Get her support and one other, it gets 2. Get everyone's support, it gets 3. This is true for the others as well, so everyone definitely votes the way they say they will.
That is confusing.
I have to assume it's a simple coding error/oversight. My guess is when you talk to each person and get them on your side (or they're already on your side), a counter is increased by one. When you get to the vote, the game just checks that counter and uses that number as the vote count, when it should be adding one to that number to account for Sarah's vote.
You reported it on Steam, right?
I feel something is wrong with the voting.
I chose unified army and support commoners, which both failed 2/4 despite having convinced 2 rulers but that's understandable, one of them could be lying to me (I'm looking at you Maiev). But for the last vote, I chose for Rose to be High Queen and convinced both Edmond and Maeiv to support me and did not bribe the last one, but at the last council, the game send me to the council of rulers route, without any mention of my previous choices.
After some testing, I've concluded that the game doesn't count Sarah's vote. If you get no one on your side, your choice gets 0 votes, when it should be getting 1 from Sarah herself. Get one person on your side, it gets 1 vote, 2 people means 2 votes, and 3 people means 3 votes.
Im not sure if i read it wrong but i had at least three people agree to vote the way i wanted and only received two each time. Is it not a majority win?
The vote doesn't factor in Sarah's vote, which I have to assume is an oversight.